But who has verified it? Much of it is impossible to verify. But any details can be checked. I’ve seen no reputable group verify the details in his story. Maybe some are working on it.
That would be one step toward verification. But perjury prosecutions are extremely rare and hard to prove. Trump has been telling lies under oath in a lifetime of litigation. The real verification would be matching details in his story to available documents insofar as it’s possible. Why is he telling his story to this Canadian woman and not to the FBI, the House or a real fact-checking journalist.
They emailed then submitted his information to the House Oversight Committee Dem Office and met with their aides. It wasnt revealed if he testified in front of them. Did you even read the article and listen to the interview.
“They emailed”. Who is “they”? Anybody can email anybody. I could email the audio files to members of congress as well and I don’t even live in the US. Which aides did “they” meet with and why is the supposed meeting only with aides and not with Congressmen and Congresswhen and where and how do you know it happened? Just asking.
I think the election rigging the Epstein murder Putin I think it’s all connected somehow I think it goes very very deep and there’s a lot of very very wealthy people connected to always
You’re absolutely right, but if you go on to read other articles, Peter T and JD Vance had a relationship that’s how Vance got in to be the vice president Peter T bought his seat
He only said Trump, Andy Biggs, and Jim Jordan abused him. About Clarence Thomas, Lindsay Graham they were at the "after" parties where this sh*t went down. Other notables at the larger parties where none of it happened were the Clintons and MJ. He never mentioned Peter Thiel.
It won’t be popular to be skeptical of this, but thank you. Another point in the interview that caused me to pause was where the interviewer tried to suggest that there was “Satanism” involved, when Sascha did not even hint at such a thing. The interviewer is heavily biased toward Christianity.
That said, I do think this testimony should be treated seriously. I would like to see his allegations vetted where possible.
For a fact I was told by a person who’s Dad worked in the Bush administration that she was brought up as child in Satantonic environment with the powers to be at the time. I was young so it registered but gave it no thought going forward. All this is bringing up memories of a time when things like the snuff films where brought to people’s attention then squashed and life went on. This was the 70’s.
The interview is not in a court of law. It’s an interview and a very credible one. She didn’t interject with her opinions, she was just trying to reveal the many layers to his experience, that’s not bizarre.
Edward, until ALL the people involved with the abuse of children and women through and by Epstein, your statement holds no water. The cover up goes to far, wide and deep. So, unless full transparency of these files are released you come across as someone who may be part of a cover up. Wait until we have more evidence and people. All of this is disgusting in itself. Your feelings aren't facts.
That’s just stupid. Why would he be part of a cover up by asking that people be cautious moving forward to ensure accuracy and truthfulness so as to not discredit all the other victims testimonies?! Sounds like great advice to me! Use your critical thinking. Something very rare these days. Jumping the gun because you want it to be true doesn’t make it true. If you really want justice, then you want TRUTH and thoroughness, not just what you wish to be true.
I listened to allllll of the Audio recordings. Did you?? Maybe that’s why I’m being annoyed….Exaggerated??? Huh? Well I’m not trying to impress or surprise so- bye.
I completely agree Edward. I noticed the discrepancies with Jordan and Putin right away. And the broomstick story seems totally implausible. My initial thoughts were they’re gonna circulate this story, all of these people are gonna jump on board in hysteria, start calling for investigations, and the whole story is gonna be proven completely false. Which will absolutely undermine the credibility of all of the actual victims’ stories. I raise a huge red flag here. And I encourage everybodyswirling around this story to do the same thing. You hit the nail on the head. Proceed with caution, and I would add absolute skepticism.
I think it's always good to take a step back. For all we know, this could have been planted to undermine the Epstein Files. They can use this and compare it to any allegations in the files and say their all lies.
The allegations are credible especially given all we know about Trump and the other individuals, especially given the known behavior of some prominent individuals, especially given the behavior of known sex traffickers, especially given the consistency of the witness statements.
There are enough details that an unbiased investigation could be thoroughly conducted. The claims should be taken seriously.
Thoughtful honorable people should always be willing to reexamine their beliefs and follow the facts.
The implications are of such gravity they should not be ignored nor should we think we already know, based on the outcome we desire.
This rang of (un)controlled opposition to me from the jump. Put a crazy story out there, debunk it easily, and boom - the credibility of all victims has taken a blow.
Why is that “a good one”? You had my attention regarding the approach Lisa has taken. With that much, I could agree. However even that opinion could prove to be an irresponsible one as more information comes to light.
Let me frame my position as clearly as possible without diving into CTE and the like; or the very obvious rebuttal—that being that Sascha has nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming forward with this (as you alluded to yourself)…
My position isn’t that Sascha Riley’s allegations should be believed or treated as proven; it’s that they shouldn’t be preemptively discredited based on plausibility judgments before an evidentiary process has occurred—especially when additional corroboration has been explicitly promised. Investigation isn’t endorsement. Disproving some claims wouldn’t negate accountability for others, and treating “more likely false than true” as a stopping point substitutes personal intuition for process. History shows that many abuse scandals later proven real were initially dismissed as implausible, with evidence emerging only because inquiry proceeded despite early skepticism.
This isn’t a dispute between skepticism and credulity. Skepticism is a method, not a posture: it resists premature closure and distinguishes belief from investigation. At most, current public information renders certain claims unsupported or implausible—not impossible—and absence of public evidence isn’t proof of nonexistence. Supporting investigation means allowing it to run without shaping conclusions in advance. My concern isn’t what the outcome ultimately is, but who gets to decide when inquiry is no longer warranted.
We had a similar case here in the UK about ten years ago which should be a warning here. An individual called Carl Beech made accusations about a paedophile ring involving a former Prime Minister, senior politicians and others. The accusations were treated seriously by the police who launched an investigation costing millions of pounds. However, the case collapsed when it was found that Mr Beech was a complete fantasist. He was subsequently jailed for perverting the course of justice, fraud and child abuse.
All the things we know so far point to Sascha speaking truthfully….
An army officer confirmed that Sascha was confronted with someone seeing one of his old snuff films. That he is a real person and was in the army unit that he said he was.
His dad was mentioned in the Epstein Files that were released.
Honestly, if you listen to it, it rings true. But I don’t think people are comfortable talking about little boys being graped like little girls being graped,
We have a DOJ that would never investigate this case. They will protect these people at all costs. The following of this cult is so strong that they would give a pass on everything. Morals of America has gone down the drain. These people have so much hate towards black/brown people they wouldn’t even consider it.
Well I'm sure I don't know, but I believe the victims first. Always.
As a survivor of abuse myself, and after having looked back at my situation, who was iunvolved, what they were thinking/believed as well as my own perception of it, how ever many people were present is how many versions there are of what really went down. There is a lot to consider. I don't blame the OP for putting this out there. Facts need to be checked.
The thing is though, that we are currently and continuing to see just how FAILED the system really is. Part of my abuee happened in the church. I was silenced and then gaslit to both protect the people in charge and also to discredit my accusations. And I believed what I was told and that I was responsible. Well I wasn't and after years of therapy, I am even now finding new things and realizations in my further recovering process that show me more objective ways to see how things really went down. And there is ALWAYS truth to the survivor. ALWAYS.
Do I believe Jim Jordan was present? I don't know. Is the timeline correct? Probably not. But Sascha even states that his memory is bad. He flat out gives multiple instances where he tells the interviewer that he can't trust his memory. So don't elude that.
Do I personally believe that any of this happened? YES. I believe all of it happened. A victim knows a real testimoey from an "Exaggerated" story. And I'll just end by saying that while we ABSOLUTELY SHOULD proceed with caution, we can also leave that to the analysts. Right now the message we should all be sharing is to believe the victim and do our parts to make absolutely certain that nothing like this could possibly happen again.
People believe every single bit of it’s not just about Trump. It’s about Clarence Thomas Peter T Jim, Jordan, Lindsey Graham
As they should believe him, instead of assuming he's lying. Too much of his story is verifiable if one just takes the time to do that.
But who has verified it? Much of it is impossible to verify. But any details can be checked. I’ve seen no reputable group verify the details in his story. Maybe some are working on it.
That would be one step toward verification. But perjury prosecutions are extremely rare and hard to prove. Trump has been telling lies under oath in a lifetime of litigation. The real verification would be matching details in his story to available documents insofar as it’s possible. Why is he telling his story to this Canadian woman and not to the FBI, the House or a real fact-checking journalist.
They emailed then submitted his information to the House Oversight Committee Dem Office and met with their aides. It wasnt revealed if he testified in front of them. Did you even read the article and listen to the interview.
“They emailed”. Who is “they”? Anybody can email anybody. I could email the audio files to members of congress as well and I don’t even live in the US. Which aides did “they” meet with and why is the supposed meeting only with aides and not with Congressmen and Congresswhen and where and how do you know it happened? Just asking.
Thiel was not mentioned.
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. JD Vance and Peter T were messing with each other. That’s why Peter paid so much to get Vance the VP
Vance is still Thiel's boy and puppet-to-be.
I think the election rigging the Epstein murder Putin I think it’s all connected somehow I think it goes very very deep and there’s a lot of very very wealthy people connected to always
You’re absolutely right, but if you go on to read other articles, Peter T and JD Vance had a relationship that’s how Vance got in to be the vice president Peter T bought his seat
He only said Trump, Andy Biggs, and Jim Jordan abused him. About Clarence Thomas, Lindsay Graham they were at the "after" parties where this sh*t went down. Other notables at the larger parties where none of it happened were the Clintons and MJ. He never mentioned Peter Thiel.
It won’t be popular to be skeptical of this, but thank you. Another point in the interview that caused me to pause was where the interviewer tried to suggest that there was “Satanism” involved, when Sascha did not even hint at such a thing. The interviewer is heavily biased toward Christianity.
That said, I do think this testimony should be treated seriously. I would like to see his allegations vetted where possible.
I heard it more that she was asking if it was ritualistic or just a perverse desire. And he said the latter
For a fact I was told by a person who’s Dad worked in the Bush administration that she was brought up as child in Satantonic environment with the powers to be at the time. I was young so it registered but gave it no thought going forward. All this is bringing up memories of a time when things like the snuff films where brought to people’s attention then squashed and life went on. This was the 70’s.
I heard the interviewer ask if satanism was involved, and he said it was not.
She didn't suggest Satanism was involved, but she did make some alignments to some similar practices. Go listen to it.
The interview is not in a court of law. It’s an interview and a very credible one. She didn’t interject with her opinions, she was just trying to reveal the many layers to his experience, that’s not bizarre.
She's a lawyer, what would you know in comparison exactly?
What do we know about her?
Edward, until ALL the people involved with the abuse of children and women through and by Epstein, your statement holds no water. The cover up goes to far, wide and deep. So, unless full transparency of these files are released you come across as someone who may be part of a cover up. Wait until we have more evidence and people. All of this is disgusting in itself. Your feelings aren't facts.
That’s just stupid. Why would he be part of a cover up by asking that people be cautious moving forward to ensure accuracy and truthfulness so as to not discredit all the other victims testimonies?! Sounds like great advice to me! Use your critical thinking. Something very rare these days. Jumping the gun because you want it to be true doesn’t make it true. If you really want justice, then you want TRUTH and thoroughness, not just what you wish to be true.
ok now the comments are leaning insane.
WTF ??? where are you coming from.
The post is simple.
Proceed with caution.
This whole story is starting to make the hairs on my neck stand.
And I have a strong intuition.
The gentleman you are questioning is a professional and deserves respect.
So have an opinion but I don’t think you are credible.
Neither are yours
As a 30 yr Law Enforcement Investigator, I believe EVERY word and shame on you for victim blaming!!!!
There is no BLAMING?
30 yrs?
Are you questioning my credentials?
He didn’t blame the alleged victim😏.
You don’t know ANYTHING about Surviors and your caption shows it all. I won’t even bother in clicking.
I listened to allllll of the Audio recordings. Did you?? Maybe that’s why I’m being annoyed….Exaggerated??? Huh? Well I’m not trying to impress or surprise so- bye.
I agree Ayisha Elliott.
I completely agree Edward. I noticed the discrepancies with Jordan and Putin right away. And the broomstick story seems totally implausible. My initial thoughts were they’re gonna circulate this story, all of these people are gonna jump on board in hysteria, start calling for investigations, and the whole story is gonna be proven completely false. Which will absolutely undermine the credibility of all of the actual victims’ stories. I raise a huge red flag here. And I encourage everybodyswirling around this story to do the same thing. You hit the nail on the head. Proceed with caution, and I would add absolute skepticism.
I think it's always good to take a step back. For all we know, this could have been planted to undermine the Epstein Files. They can use this and compare it to any allegations in the files and say their all lies.
He has been posting for years on Twitter
Exactly.
What broomstick story
If you read the entire account you’ll see it. It’s gross so I’d rather not repeat it 🤭.
It was a tent stake
Shocking, a white man doesn’t believe an account of sexual abuse. Never heard of that before. 🙄
The allegations are credible especially given all we know about Trump and the other individuals, especially given the known behavior of some prominent individuals, especially given the behavior of known sex traffickers, especially given the consistency of the witness statements.
There are enough details that an unbiased investigation could be thoroughly conducted. The claims should be taken seriously.
Thoughtful honorable people should always be willing to reexamine their beliefs and follow the facts.
The implications are of such gravity they should not be ignored nor should we think we already know, based on the outcome we desire.
His accounts are very truthful and any SA victim would also believe this. DT is a sick sick soul. And he should NOT be the president
This rang of (un)controlled opposition to me from the jump. Put a crazy story out there, debunk it easily, and boom - the credibility of all victims has taken a blow.
People need to be more discerning.
Yup.
This is the most sensible thing I've seen written about it yet . It's a red herring a blue q if you will .
Sorry but this is fake
https://open.substack.com/pub/rachelandthecity/p/you-are-never-going-to-believe-what?r=4c7psw&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
Why is that “a good one”? You had my attention regarding the approach Lisa has taken. With that much, I could agree. However even that opinion could prove to be an irresponsible one as more information comes to light.
Let me frame my position as clearly as possible without diving into CTE and the like; or the very obvious rebuttal—that being that Sascha has nothing to gain and everything to lose by coming forward with this (as you alluded to yourself)…
My position isn’t that Sascha Riley’s allegations should be believed or treated as proven; it’s that they shouldn’t be preemptively discredited based on plausibility judgments before an evidentiary process has occurred—especially when additional corroboration has been explicitly promised. Investigation isn’t endorsement. Disproving some claims wouldn’t negate accountability for others, and treating “more likely false than true” as a stopping point substitutes personal intuition for process. History shows that many abuse scandals later proven real were initially dismissed as implausible, with evidence emerging only because inquiry proceeded despite early skepticism.
This isn’t a dispute between skepticism and credulity. Skepticism is a method, not a posture: it resists premature closure and distinguishes belief from investigation. At most, current public information renders certain claims unsupported or implausible—not impossible—and absence of public evidence isn’t proof of nonexistence. Supporting investigation means allowing it to run without shaping conclusions in advance. My concern isn’t what the outcome ultimately is, but who gets to decide when inquiry is no longer warranted.
Thanks for the compliment…and validation. I wouldn’t want to debate myself either.
He says in the recorded statement that Gym Jordan was young, college-aged.
We had a similar case here in the UK about ten years ago which should be a warning here. An individual called Carl Beech made accusations about a paedophile ring involving a former Prime Minister, senior politicians and others. The accusations were treated seriously by the police who launched an investigation costing millions of pounds. However, the case collapsed when it was found that Mr Beech was a complete fantasist. He was subsequently jailed for perverting the course of justice, fraud and child abuse.
All the things we know so far point to Sascha speaking truthfully….
An army officer confirmed that Sascha was confronted with someone seeing one of his old snuff films. That he is a real person and was in the army unit that he said he was.
His dad was mentioned in the Epstein Files that were released.
Honestly, if you listen to it, it rings true. But I don’t think people are comfortable talking about little boys being graped like little girls being graped,
We have a DOJ that would never investigate this case. They will protect these people at all costs. The following of this cult is so strong that they would give a pass on everything. Morals of America has gone down the drain. These people have so much hate towards black/brown people they wouldn’t even consider it.
Well I'm sure I don't know, but I believe the victims first. Always.
As a survivor of abuse myself, and after having looked back at my situation, who was iunvolved, what they were thinking/believed as well as my own perception of it, how ever many people were present is how many versions there are of what really went down. There is a lot to consider. I don't blame the OP for putting this out there. Facts need to be checked.
The thing is though, that we are currently and continuing to see just how FAILED the system really is. Part of my abuee happened in the church. I was silenced and then gaslit to both protect the people in charge and also to discredit my accusations. And I believed what I was told and that I was responsible. Well I wasn't and after years of therapy, I am even now finding new things and realizations in my further recovering process that show me more objective ways to see how things really went down. And there is ALWAYS truth to the survivor. ALWAYS.
Do I believe Jim Jordan was present? I don't know. Is the timeline correct? Probably not. But Sascha even states that his memory is bad. He flat out gives multiple instances where he tells the interviewer that he can't trust his memory. So don't elude that.
Do I personally believe that any of this happened? YES. I believe all of it happened. A victim knows a real testimoey from an "Exaggerated" story. And I'll just end by saying that while we ABSOLUTELY SHOULD proceed with caution, we can also leave that to the analysts. Right now the message we should all be sharing is to believe the victim and do our parts to make absolutely certain that nothing like this could possibly happen again.